Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. @MHver3. We are indeed talking to Rich Rodriguez to return to WVU but as of now it’s only talks. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. ”Log in. 5m. 1. The truth is that’s where the PAC is valued at right now because the bottom half of the remnants are really dragging down the top half in. St Johns has trouble competing in the Big East and would be over their head in the Big 12. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. 2:24 AM · Jul 3, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. But not the question asked. ”“So ESPN takes more games than the current contractual obligation and uses them in the late window. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. ACC still has 2 blue bloods to B12’s 1. And it’s a huge sticking point with their BOG. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. 3. That was a guarantee. Appx $75m per year. “@RChalk94 Governance would make the final call though. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. " / Twitter. Retweets. 11:22 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. I don’t normally delete anything. Big Papa RockChalkPac voted on SDSU and SMU again. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. 3 — is made for TV. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. “@godawgs4 Not really. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. 33. @MHver3. Found. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. How to create a thread on Twitter and how to view. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. Sign up“Aresco has a petition with the signatures of every G5 school president and G5 conference commissioner to deliver to the FTC complaining of anti-competitive practices and collusion of the selection committee. Bradley Berry M. 2. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. ”“If Stanford would come they wouldn’t want to be the only CA school but Cal is not a good fit for B12 at all in so many ways. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “Colorado doesn’t even know where Cal and Stanford truly stand and what their real plan is because so far communication has been lackluster with them. @MHver3. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. 6. We currently get about $4m for that same content. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. Take it with a grain of salt-not my usual source. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. 1 — and for No. All 3 tiers. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. It was $24. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. Sign upSee new Tweets. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. 27. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. PAC is in an exclusive window with the 2 main networks bidding on B10 that expires next week. . The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. ”Small PAC tidbit: the unequal revenue sharing model being discussed now would be based on achievement in all sanctioned sports. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. SawyerBrown94 @RChalk94 · Jul 20. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. ”Gonna have envoys from the Rockies and the desert here at the B12 meetings in West-by-God Virginia. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. I did want to take a minute to share a few things though. Previous offer for 24. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. But again, aside from Rutgers going to B10, Pitt had the most room for improvement. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. Likes. Look for a thread soon. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. 5% each. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. 7:34 PM · Jul. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. As soon as I’m allowed to it’ll be up. ”“Would a LHN converted into the B12 network, a 20 year Sugar Bowl contract and a guarantee of 8 SEC OOC games per year for 10 years be enough of a carrot for B12 to allow TXOU out early with only the exit fee penalty?”“Oregon and Washington want to wait out the 30 day window on the exclusive period for Fox and espn to renegotiate Pac12 contract before making a decision on B12 application. We currently get about $4m for that same content. ”MHver3 @MHver3. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. I do think the basement for some PAC schools is $28m net per school with at least 50% linear. ALT. ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. An olive branch was extended by GK to BY with terms that favor B12 this time. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. That will never happen because these additions are based on valuation metrics. Might even see a Huskie or two. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. Retweets. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. MHver3. 2. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. and. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. Quote Tweets. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. @xtmountain. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. Quote. 1. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. So not just a. Well a big aspect of this programming and a key part of ND working close with B12 is throwing a lifeline to Stanford. OMG I was wrong. B12 has a chance to get into 20m households with additions. Likes. 9. That’s it. Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. You are just regurgitating what you see on your twitter TL. bob trollsby. This will be my last tweet for a bit. @MHver3. ”Log in. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. @MHver3 Stanford has basically said to B10: pay us our actual value vs what the bloated equal share of the big pie would be. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Found. Log in. 2. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. ”My source is confident of a few things: 16 Mar 2023 13:22:493:25 AM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. There are some trying to angle SDSU or even Fresno as an alt travel partner for Stanford but the metrics show Cal is actually more desirable to tv partners”Kliavkoff is still trying to leverage more $ from ESPN but they are so far apart (allegedly almost $200m per year) that some at ESPN have told people in the B12 that Kliavkoff seems to be either desperate or cluelessThings aren’t blowing up just yet…BUT…Colorado is having another meeting tomorrow to continue down the road of departing the PAC. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. Staples: The realignment battle for No. “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. ”“@MHver3 If UA and CU aren't stepping up to the plate and contributing their fair $$$ share to the PAC, it's hard to see how they'll suddenly become valuable assets for the Big 12. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. Phillips had a call this afternoon with Kliavkoff and Yormark/Bowlsby about an alliance of the 3 conferences. that will be accurate. Replying to @MHver3. ”“@ChrisRPhillips B10 dreams for Oregon and Washington left and went to the Bears in Chicago. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. 2. 1. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. Replying to. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. 6. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. 1 — and for No. Apologize in advance for spelling or grammatical errors-glasses are off and I’m squinting in the dark. 19. There. FSU is the most attractive maybe. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. ESPN pro-rata is a given. At least for the next 6-8 years. ”Bedtime snippet: I’ve been exchanging DMs with someone employed at a P12 athletic department. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. Sign up“Called my source. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. Taking a small break from sharing. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be the best move. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. Likes. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. This happened sometime in the past few days. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. @MHver3. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. I have nothing to gain-no monetization, no click bait links, no podcast. ”Log in. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. It was $24. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools joining B12 could see their collective value closer to the full $250m yearly that ESPN was willing to pay all 10 in a vacuum @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 If we receive applications from all 4 of the corners schools (we already have one from SDSU from last year) it’s likely we initially only invite 2 and then wait for tv negotiations to open up before adding whomever the other 2 will be. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48 Feb 24. and @TheAPBerry. Learn more. and @JimUSFSig. 23. Mountaineer Steve. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. That’s it. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. 4. Louis Oliverio. That’s it. Yormark has a vision. @MHver3. Meanwhile ND maneuvered their way to a sweetheart deal with ACC and was able to leave the faltering BIgEast. help. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. ”Hearing GK struck out with the Amazon/ESPN deal and it’s not even going to the table for a vote-presidents asking him to go back to the networks and negotiate it higher. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. . Houston and BYU applications are in. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. Quote Tweets. Replying to. Jul 12. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. The PAC show of unity tweet…. Log in. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. “Espn is telling B12 through back channels that they would like to broker a deal to convert LHN into a Big12 network and secure all of B12 tier 3 rights for 7 years. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. @CFBKnights. Even if espn is trying to call this something else (licensing fee for streaming content)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. Up to 75% would be streaming. Also learning that Stanford has told B10 they will join for a drastically reduced cut of the tv money. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy. This happened sometime in the past few days. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. @KStateKyle. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. Log in. Stanford/Cal 13. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. Likes. Could also mean ND is rethinking. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. ”“Also telling that PAC12 is saying they are waiting for B10 contract to close before they “know anything”. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. 30 Mar 2023 18:54:47Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. 13. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. 8 of them are. 9. Replying to @MHver3. 2. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. Replying to. Boise is not completely off the table in football. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. Quote Tweets. Gonzaga better fit for Pac. There’s a catch. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. MHver3 @MHver3. Oregon was the third choice as a. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. Things have escalated. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. ”“@mikednfl Absolutely. The real question is who is number 2?”“Neat fact about the B12 tv extension: the can open it up for renegotiation if they add a minimum of 2 schools that play in the pacific time zone. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. Likes. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. Got a PAC update. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I’m hearing we could see a vote by B12 to add them within the next week or so barring a major development. 1. PAC will just expand with lesser brands and pay those schools peanuts to feed ORWA more for the duration of the next deal and then maybe B10 will come calling. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ·. ” MHver3 @MHver3. Could also mean ND is rethinking. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. 21. Jul 6, 2022. 1. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. ”“Sorry I’ve been away so long. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. ”“PAC and ACC leadership have had discussion about an alliance but only if it benefits by getting espn to reopen their tv contract. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. Pitt actually did improve after the move. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. Offering to join in football only at 50% of a full share of revenue after the buy in period. AZ has and AZSU problem. ”Log in. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. Sign upSee new Tweets. And GK. @MHver3. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. My source can confirm Colorado is. ” “@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. We don’t have the endowment they have. 2:56 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Now it’s been twice verified. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. 2. When information hits I have a duty to share (even if the text comes at 12:15am and I have to work at 6am!). Would need to probably add 6. @MHver3 If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. I don’t think that’s an option for us. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Replying to . “Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…”“@MurrDCU They’d be a decent add just for the recruiting area. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. BC, Wake, Cuse. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. Ed. It actually decreases it. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. Log in.